I think people are more nostalgic for the time period when Galliano was at Dior more than anything else. We are missing the theatre and spectacle of a good fashion show, which was proven by the mad love for Galliano’s most recent show for Margiela.
I agree with this. Putting this in context with LVMH's recent revenue miss, it would seem to me that going back to an erstwhile designer would be to capitalize on perception and nostalgia, regardless of the actual track record and consistency. It reminds me of how Nike doubled down on their '80s and '90s archives to sell the *idea* of that era in the context of 2020s hype (that only worked so well....look at them now). Eventually, nostalgia wears off and you have to deliver something new. Let's see what happens next.
Girl. That Spring 2007 show was the moment when I was like hmmm does JG really know how to make things people want to buy?! He’s always all over the place. It’s too Les Mis. He is of a time a place. But it probably isn’t the Dior of 2024. I doubt he could manage the merchandising of it all the way MGC produces product every season. That was never his thing. Lovely runways, but it does not translate at retail.
“He’s always all over the place. He is of a time a place.” Completely agree. This comment will get me tomatoed, I’m sure, but at times his everything-but-the-kitchen-sink approach reminds me of Gaultier and Lagerfeld, who also sampled widely for their collections. My take on all three? Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
After watching the Galliano doc, I went back and looked at some of his old Dior shows ... quite a number were downright terrible! There is also a self-seriousness to even his more outré clothes that you don't find in Gaultier or even Lagerfeld (who both had a more playfully irreverent bent) and that doesn't feel modern.
No. Nope. Not gonna happen. IMHO, the role of a designer is to amplify the house's legacy while infusing it with innovation and excitement. He wasn't able to do this the last time, why go back? Dior has a certain cachet which just isn't a fit for Galliano's avant garde bent. At the end of the day, the clothes need to be sale-able and wearable by the house's core audience.
Fashion shows started as a way to display items that store buyers would consider and place orders. This has evolved to a mix of wearable and fantasy. But each collection should still contain a substantial portion of clothes for buyers to order. Otherwise it's performance art - which is ok, but not the original purpose.
The fashion industry has become much too corporate for full-on theater runway. Some showmanship is good, but it seems like there's more of a line in the sand now for what the business people will tolerate.
You know what I realized about the Twisters red carpet -- I keep reading about how this is a movie for the flyover states/middle america and why doesn't hollywood make movies for those people?? etc. etc. The Twisters carpet is like a carpet for Hollywood's imagining of flyover states: "Put some hay on it! There we go!"
Dior is doing very well under Maria’s direction, so I don’t believe that LVMH is going to replace her with John. I don’t know where this rumor that John is going back to Dior is coming from. If I were to speculate, I would say that fashion lovers, and fans of the Galliano era of Dior, are letting their nostalgia overtake their reason. At the time, I remember loving his exuberant, maximalist, fantastical interpretation fashion. I still believe that his work was good overall ( although there were a few collections that were rightfully criticized).
So while I loved his work when he was at Dior, I don’t believe that he’s going back and it would be a good decision to do so. There are other fashion brands with no Director at the helm (Givenchy, Chanel….) that he could go to.
exactly this. could he tone himself down for Chanel even? Chanel is probably the only big house that knows how to work with an eccentric designer with loose lips.
Because of this reason, I actually think that Givenchy would be the better choice because they have to resources to execute some of his fantasy inspired designs. His style also seems better suited for Givenchy rather than Chanel (and maybe this time around his Givenchy collections would be better received). Alternatively, Dries van Noten might also be a good choice because it is a smaller house that doesn’t have the intense fashion schedule that bigger houses like Chanel have. I think at this stage in his career it’s probably best for him to stay with a brand that allows him to focus on a smaller number of collections.
Sorry, I just don't get the adulation of Galliano. I can't get past the mediocre design and the anti-semitic insults. I could care less where he ends up, and god help Dior if he goes back there. Time for newer and better talent. Let him go retire and leave us alone.
Curious who you would like to see? It’s definitely a complicated last minute play so I feel it has to be someone with name recognition and also mild enough to not be a lightning rod for the right.
In order to have the best candidates for the presidency we have to do a lot of work before hand, term limits, throttling special interests groups, transparency as to who is providing funds and what they want. I would LOVE to see much younger faces, ideas, and recognition for the average person here in the states. That’s a long wish list before,we even get to the president. Basically we have hit the bottom of the barrel on both candidates and as an older American, I am seeing less and less trust in Washington and the media. Where do we go from here?
I think people are more nostalgic for the time period when Galliano was at Dior more than anything else. We are missing the theatre and spectacle of a good fashion show, which was proven by the mad love for Galliano’s most recent show for Margiela.
I agree with this. Putting this in context with LVMH's recent revenue miss, it would seem to me that going back to an erstwhile designer would be to capitalize on perception and nostalgia, regardless of the actual track record and consistency. It reminds me of how Nike doubled down on their '80s and '90s archives to sell the *idea* of that era in the context of 2020s hype (that only worked so well....look at them now). Eventually, nostalgia wears off and you have to deliver something new. Let's see what happens next.
Girl. That Spring 2007 show was the moment when I was like hmmm does JG really know how to make things people want to buy?! He’s always all over the place. It’s too Les Mis. He is of a time a place. But it probably isn’t the Dior of 2024. I doubt he could manage the merchandising of it all the way MGC produces product every season. That was never his thing. Lovely runways, but it does not translate at retail.
Yeah, he said in the High Low doc that he couldn't handle it. He should not go back to that pace.
“He’s always all over the place. He is of a time a place.” Completely agree. This comment will get me tomatoed, I’m sure, but at times his everything-but-the-kitchen-sink approach reminds me of Gaultier and Lagerfeld, who also sampled widely for their collections. My take on all three? Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
Not the point but I do enjoy tomato as a verb.
After watching the Galliano doc, I went back and looked at some of his old Dior shows ... quite a number were downright terrible! There is also a self-seriousness to even his more outré clothes that you don't find in Gaultier or even Lagerfeld (who both had a more playfully irreverent bent) and that doesn't feel modern.
GalliaNO.
Also, how do you view his Dior legacy? Overrated.
No. Nope. Not gonna happen. IMHO, the role of a designer is to amplify the house's legacy while infusing it with innovation and excitement. He wasn't able to do this the last time, why go back? Dior has a certain cachet which just isn't a fit for Galliano's avant garde bent. At the end of the day, the clothes need to be sale-able and wearable by the house's core audience.
I’m not a deep fashion person but doesn’t the runway need to be a spectacle and the clothes a watered down wearable version?
Fashion shows started as a way to display items that store buyers would consider and place orders. This has evolved to a mix of wearable and fantasy. But each collection should still contain a substantial portion of clothes for buyers to order. Otherwise it's performance art - which is ok, but not the original purpose.
The fashion industry has become much too corporate for full-on theater runway. Some showmanship is good, but it seems like there's more of a line in the sand now for what the business people will tolerate.
I'm not into the lack of glamour of the twister redo. Even less into a Galliano redo.
You know what I realized about the Twisters red carpet -- I keep reading about how this is a movie for the flyover states/middle america and why doesn't hollywood make movies for those people?? etc. etc. The Twisters carpet is like a carpet for Hollywood's imagining of flyover states: "Put some hay on it! There we go!"
LOL that is exactly the thinking. hopeless!
Dior is doing very well under Maria’s direction, so I don’t believe that LVMH is going to replace her with John. I don’t know where this rumor that John is going back to Dior is coming from. If I were to speculate, I would say that fashion lovers, and fans of the Galliano era of Dior, are letting their nostalgia overtake their reason. At the time, I remember loving his exuberant, maximalist, fantastical interpretation fashion. I still believe that his work was good overall ( although there were a few collections that were rightfully criticized).
So while I loved his work when he was at Dior, I don’t believe that he’s going back and it would be a good decision to do so. There are other fashion brands with no Director at the helm (Givenchy, Chanel….) that he could go to.
exactly this. could he tone himself down for Chanel even? Chanel is probably the only big house that knows how to work with an eccentric designer with loose lips.
Because of this reason, I actually think that Givenchy would be the better choice because they have to resources to execute some of his fantasy inspired designs. His style also seems better suited for Givenchy rather than Chanel (and maybe this time around his Givenchy collections would be better received). Alternatively, Dries van Noten might also be a good choice because it is a smaller house that doesn’t have the intense fashion schedule that bigger houses like Chanel have. I think at this stage in his career it’s probably best for him to stay with a brand that allows him to focus on a smaller number of collections.
Sorry, I just don't get the adulation of Galliano. I can't get past the mediocre design and the anti-semitic insults. I could care less where he ends up, and god help Dior if he goes back there. Time for newer and better talent. Let him go retire and leave us alone.
Curious who you would like to see? It’s definitely a complicated last minute play so I feel it has to be someone with name recognition and also mild enough to not be a lightning rod for the right.
In order to have the best candidates for the presidency we have to do a lot of work before hand, term limits, throttling special interests groups, transparency as to who is providing funds and what they want. I would LOVE to see much younger faces, ideas, and recognition for the average person here in the states. That’s a long wish list before,we even get to the president. Basically we have hit the bottom of the barrel on both candidates and as an older American, I am seeing less and less trust in Washington and the media. Where do we go from here?
we're not discussing politics here.