I think Virgina – whom I love, her podcast is great and I think she's the only person with a kind of "raspy" (others would say v***l f*y) voice that's actually soothing rather than irritating – is on the money when she says it'll take thin folk to stand up and tell brands that they want fat people included in their offerings.
Right now, if you're a brand that's surviving in the fashion world and catering solely to thin people, what incentive have you to include fat people too? Sure, you might make more money EVENTUALLY but you'll have to overhaul your entire production process, from fit models to designers who know how to design for fat bodies to fabric quantities and even your warehouse space potentially. It seems easier to just try to get the thin people to buy more of what they're already into.
And that's the rub: time has shown again and again (very pertinent, albeit dramatic, example is Shein) that people don't care about things that don't affect them, and it's very rare that we'll actually take a stand and stop doing or eating or buying something we like EVEN IF it's damaging other people.
Make those other people FAT people – that is, a group that is still roundly and constantly discriminated against in almost every sphere, and not only that but said discrimination is ACCEPTED because people just think fat people are somehow "at fault" for being fat in the first place – and the likelihood of thin people taking a stand on their behalf becomes infinitely lower.
It's so depressing but, honestly, I can't see it changing any time soon.
I didn’t think we’d still be talking about fashion’s anti-fat bias today (since the first wave of the rebellion began in 1967!). I’d add that 34% of women in the USA are under 5’4” and 13% of the group are under 130lbs, size 6?! Nope. So who is the fashion industry’s target demographic and how can the industry survive on such a small slice of the population?
One of many reasons the Met gala should be canned. Why does anyone care anymore? Also really think there's do much opportunity for someone clever to design stylish clothes for bigger sizes. Why has no-one done this yet? Surely answering a need & a huge money spinner...?!?!
"Designer — it's a nonstarter. Even when I was more straight-sized, I didn't really feel like I could shop in the designer world because they often don't go above an eight or a six. " This is patently untrue. Designer sizing goes up to sizes 14/16 in many, many brands. I don't know where this person got that information but it is wrong.
I think Virgina – whom I love, her podcast is great and I think she's the only person with a kind of "raspy" (others would say v***l f*y) voice that's actually soothing rather than irritating – is on the money when she says it'll take thin folk to stand up and tell brands that they want fat people included in their offerings.
Right now, if you're a brand that's surviving in the fashion world and catering solely to thin people, what incentive have you to include fat people too? Sure, you might make more money EVENTUALLY but you'll have to overhaul your entire production process, from fit models to designers who know how to design for fat bodies to fabric quantities and even your warehouse space potentially. It seems easier to just try to get the thin people to buy more of what they're already into.
And that's the rub: time has shown again and again (very pertinent, albeit dramatic, example is Shein) that people don't care about things that don't affect them, and it's very rare that we'll actually take a stand and stop doing or eating or buying something we like EVEN IF it's damaging other people.
Make those other people FAT people – that is, a group that is still roundly and constantly discriminated against in almost every sphere, and not only that but said discrimination is ACCEPTED because people just think fat people are somehow "at fault" for being fat in the first place – and the likelihood of thin people taking a stand on their behalf becomes infinitely lower.
It's so depressing but, honestly, I can't see it changing any time soon.
I didn’t think we’d still be talking about fashion’s anti-fat bias today (since the first wave of the rebellion began in 1967!). I’d add that 34% of women in the USA are under 5’4” and 13% of the group are under 130lbs, size 6?! Nope. So who is the fashion industry’s target demographic and how can the industry survive on such a small slice of the population?
One of many reasons the Met gala should be canned. Why does anyone care anymore? Also really think there's do much opportunity for someone clever to design stylish clothes for bigger sizes. Why has no-one done this yet? Surely answering a need & a huge money spinner...?!?!
"Designer — it's a nonstarter. Even when I was more straight-sized, I didn't really feel like I could shop in the designer world because they often don't go above an eight or a six. " This is patently untrue. Designer sizing goes up to sizes 14/16 in many, many brands. I don't know where this person got that information but it is wrong.